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Re: Boy George

Postby decophile » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:19 pm

Normal people who get off drugs ~are~ celebrated - by the people who know them and by their support groups. :-)
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Re: Boy George

Postby SubHuman » Thu May 01, 2014 4:48 pm

He didn't seem rude and unpleasant in the early days, perhaps just a bad moment.
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Re: Boy George

Postby decophile » Thu May 01, 2014 4:55 pm

SubHuman wrote:He didn't seem rude and unpleasant in the early days, perhaps just a bad moment.


He's a moody princess. But I think he's great. :-)
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 pm

George said on a Us talk show that Culture Club will be doing a joint tour starting in December with Alison Moyet. I think her album the Minutes was fantastic.
I guess cs15 will have to see this one since he loves Alison even though you know who will be there playing the drums as it's CC.
It's very smart of them to hook up with another act to sell more tickets. Alison is a great match since she started out in the 80's as well, but is very respected and not seen as cheesy like some of the other 80's type of acts who would be part of a Here and Now type of show.

I do think George is talented as an artist and singer/songwriter but as a person I do find him quite rude and mean spirited most of the time. It doesn't really matter what I think of him as a person because he's not my family or friend so it's not I have to deal with him on a daily basis. It doesn't make me not buy his albums or go to his tours. I've followed him for many years, and sorry to say, I do feel as a person the mean side always seems like it's there. He can be nice sometimes, but somehow the bitchy side always comes out. I wish he were a different type of person, but that's just the way he is. I guess you have to take the rough with the smooth in life.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Sat May 10, 2014 7:06 pm

Bloody Hell! Another amazing new song: 'I Don't Love You'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nnNIOSDV7c

Genius. I love it. Is there no end to his talent?
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Sat May 10, 2014 8:06 pm

cs15 wrote:Bloody Hell! Another amazing new song: 'I Don't Love You'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nnNIOSDV7c

Genius. I love it. Is there no end to his talent?


It seems kind of bland and MOR to me. It doesn't blow me away. And it's done for a fashion and jewelry line. It's really just a commercial. Isn't that kind of selling out? He's been critical of other artists doing commercials yet he does the same.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Sat May 10, 2014 8:42 pm

But it's done with style and the song is superb. Love the lyrics.
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Sun May 11, 2014 2:28 pm

Here's the clip from US television where George mentions a tour with Alison Moyet. It's at the end after the recipe.

http://queenlatifah.com/videos?bcpid=32 ... 2603087001
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Sun May 11, 2014 3:09 pm

cs15 wrote:But it's done with style and the song is superb. Love the lyrics.


Matter of opinion. The song really does nothing for me. Everything he records is so slow and bland to me. It puts me right to sleep. Plus the vocals on that are hard to listen to. In the interview, he said the new CC album will be just like This is What I Do with reggae etc. It will be nice to see them all together again but I don't expect anything that special musically.

I much prefer Alison's last album to This is What I DO. I love the synth pop style more. She worked with Guy Sigsworth, whose production I'm a big fan of. Love his work with Madonna and Imogen Heap. It seems the new CC album is being produced by Richie Stevens and Youth who did This is What I DO. It's a shame they couldn't get more modern interesting producers but George is always so stubborn and resistant to change.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Thu May 22, 2014 8:43 pm

http://www.seatwave.com/culture-club-ti ... erf/927815

Anyone want to grab some Culture Club tickets? Only £550 - a bargain!

Is this site for real???? What nutter would pay that?? :O
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:39 pm

Culture Club on the TV tonight: Live At Edinburgh Castle.

Dreadful show but CC were ok. Shame Roy wasn't there though.
Not excited that CC are back together but hopefully the new album will be a decent one.

Oh, the songs played live tonight were: DYRWTHM & Karma. Safe choices but crowd pleasers.
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:21 pm

cs15 wrote:Culture Club on the TV tonight: Live At Edinburgh Castle.

Dreadful show but CC were ok. Shame Roy wasn't there though.
Not excited that CC are back together but hopefully the new album will be a decent one.

Oh, the songs played live tonight were: DYRWTHM & Karma. Safe choices but crowd pleasers.


It was nice to see Jon and Mikey playing on stage. They really love performing, don't they? I love CC and am excited they are doing something, but George's voice was not good at this event. I hope on the tour his voice will be better. I did like the arrangements on the show though. They were more like the original. In his solo shows George changes them in a weird way. Like with Do You Really, on his last tour he had this horrible long trumpet intro to it. It was killing my ears. Thank God they didn't have that on the show.
I don't really understand why you are so against CC getting back together. They are a classic 80's band like Duran Duran and Blondie who are still out there doing something. CC should be also. They shouldn't be cast aside and forgotten. Without CC, no one would know of Boy George and he wouldn't have fans. I'm sure CC won't take up all his time. He can still do solo stuff.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:19 pm

It's simply down to the quality of the music. To me his solo material is far superior to CC. I find a lot of the CC material to be quite throwaway. Of course there are exceptions and I could probably list 20 brilliant CC tracks but I could easily name 50 brilliant George tracks.
Also, the last time I saw CC live on the 'Rewind' tour they were awful. George didn't want to be there, there were tensions between the band and I left the gigs feeling totally deflated at the lacklustre performance.
This time around they look at bit more together as a band and hopefully they can knock out a decent album. I wish them well.
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:29 pm

cs15 wrote:It's simply down to the quality of the music. To me his solo material is far superior to CC. I find a lot of the CC material to be quite throwaway. Of course there are exceptions and I could probably list 20 brilliant CC tracks but I could easily name 50 brilliant George tracks.
Also, the last time I saw CC live on the 'Rewind' tour they were awful. George didn't want to be there, there were tensions between the band and I left the gigs feeling totally deflated at the lacklustre performance.
This time around they look at bit more together as a band and hopefully they can knock out a decent album. I wish them well.


I like some of George's solo music mostly the earlier stuff like Generations of Love and Cheapness and Beauty, but overall I like CC's music better. You say throwaway, but I like fun pop music. Madonna's my favorite artist, so I tend to like more lighthearted fun poppy stuff. The parts of George's solo career I like tend to be a little more pop. One of my favorite G solo songs is Same Thing in Reverse. I don't like the harder techno stuff like the Twin. Everyone raved about it, but I found This is What I Do a very overrated record. The reggae and acoustic tracks just bored me. I listened to it once and never bothered to listen to it again. I couldn't understand what people were raving about. I'm surprised you say 50 solo George tracks because he releases stuff so infrequently, you'd have to almost like every song to find 50 good tracks!
I saw the Rewind tour and maybe they were fighting but I enjoyed the music. George's voice was a lot better then. I think it's George's personality. He never wants to be anywhere. He was grouchy during his last solo concert too and the other members of CC were nowhere to be seen there. He's always complaining about airline employees or waiters or someone. He's talented but he's always had a lousy attitude towards other people. Just the way he is.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:49 pm

American Culture Club gig dates:

Saturday November 15th Aqua Caliente Casino Resort Spa Rancho Mirage
Monday November 17th Fox Theatre Oakland
Wednesday November 19th Shrine Auditorium Los Angeles
Saturday November 22nd The Pearl Las Vegas
Tuesday November 25th Beacon Theatre New York
Friday November 28th Trump Taj Mahal Atlantic City
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Re: Boy George

Postby decophile » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:25 pm

Ridiculously expensive. :-/
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:43 pm

decophile wrote:Ridiculously expensive. :-/


As George likes to tell everyone, it's not the 80's anymore! I don't think they're that expensive given the price of other shows in bigger venues. When you play in a larger venue there's a higher rental cost than when you play in a small club like George solo does. But then I'm a Madonna fan and used to paying a lot.
The show in NYC sold out in a few hours, which surprised even me, a big CC fan. George solo could never sell out a show like that. It just goes to show that the general public does seem to prefer George with CC, than as a solo artist. There's a certain jealousy on the part of some BG solo fans against Jon, Mikey and Roy because they want George solo to sell like CC does, but he can't.
I just hope George is willing to put in the time rehearsing with the band to do a good show, and isn't too busy with his djing or other solo projects.
I don't mind paying a lot of money as long as an artist puts on a good show. I've never regretted a cent a spent on Madonna because she gives her all. In fact, I feel more ripped off if I pay less and the artist does a bad show. I regretted the $30 or so I spent on George's recent solo show because I did not enjoy it at all.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:11 pm

George has started posting clips of new CC tracks from the 'Tribes' album.

Not impressed so far. He posted a clip of 'Oil & Water' today and I nearly fell asleep listening to it. Dirge. :O
Doesn't seem to be making much impact publicity wise either. I can see this being another flop for CC.
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Re: Boy George

Postby decophile » Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:15 pm

The one I heard I thought unremarkable. :(
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:24 pm

I've heard 3 tracks so far Deco and none of them grabbed me. :O

I'm hoping when the full album is available it'll somehow magically make sense. :rolleyes:
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:07 am

Maybe I"m weird, but I actually liked both of the Culture Club tracks, more than George's solo album. It's weird because I generally don't like a lot of G's solo stuff but I have a weak spot for CC and really like these tracks. I thought they were great. The first track was funky and cool, the other one reminded me of Victims. The only issue is George's voice which to me is very weak and raspy now. As far as publicity, most people who aren't hard core fans don't pay attention to stuff on Facebook or Instagram. They haven't done enough mainstream publicity.
I feel there are certain people who have a vendetta against the other members of Culture Club particularly Jon Moss. They want this to fail. If this fails, it won't be big deal for George, he will have his solo career, his diing and being an icon. For Jon, MIkey and Roy if this fails, this will be the end of them in the music business. I want this this reunion to succeed so badly, but in my heart I know it wont because there are certain people who are plotting against it. There are certain people who will praise anything George does as a solo artist no matter how horrible, but will always criticize Culture Club.
They are doing a gig next week at Heaven where they did their first gig. I hope it does well. I wish all the members of CC the best which I know a lot of fans don't.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:51 pm

I DO hope it's a success for them. DMIID was a massive flop and there are some decent songs on that.
'Cold Shoulder' for me is one of the best tracks CC ever produced.

The good news is that according to some sources these are only demos of the album tracks and the 'real' versions will be better. I hope so.

Regarding George's voice.......yup he's not sounding great on these tracks. His voice is far too raspy compared to 'This Is What I Do'

They've said that they knocked out the songs for 'Tribes' in a couple of weeks and I'm wondering if they should have taken a little more time and care over them.

Hopefully the fears won't be realised when the album arrives.
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Re: Boy George

Postby Glinda » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:08 pm

cs15 wrote:I DO hope it's a success for them. DMIID was a massive flop and there are some decent songs on that.
'Cold Shoulder' for me is one of the best tracks CC ever produced.

The good news is that according to some sources these are only demos of the album tracks and the 'real' versions will be better. I hope so.

Regarding George's voice.......yup he's not sounding great on these tracks. His voice is far too raspy compared to 'This Is What I Do'

They've said that they knocked out the songs for 'Tribes' in a couple of weeks and I'm wondering if they should have taken a little more time and care over them.

Hopefully the fears won't be realised when the album arrives.


I wasn't that huge on Don't Mind If I Do, but I love Cold Shoulder. I think that one advantage they have now there is social media to promote themselves. Don't Mind If I Do was pretty much pre-Internet and social media, so they were dependent on radio play and MTV to promote their new music which they wouldn't play.
To me, George's voice sounds pretty much the same as on This is What I Do. It was very raspy on there too. That's the way his voice is now unfortunately. It just seems to me you favor George's solo work over CC even when they both are just as good. It seems odd to me when CC does a ballad you call it a dirge, but you praise a lot of the slower stuff on This is What I Do. Seems to me you are biased against the band. You been incredibly overspoken about how you don't want them to reunite and how you hated the last reunion.
I want the album to be successful because a lot of people say George is the only one with talent and others did nothing and the fact that the others haven't been successful outside of the band proves they are talentless. That totally ignores there are a lot of talented musicians out there who aren't that successful in a commercial way. There are a lot of ways that go into being successful in the music business including luck other than talent. But sometimes I think the other guys believe what they've been told by certain fans that they are nothing and talentless and George is the only one with talent. I think that's one of the reasons they've never that much on their own because their self confidence has been destroyed by people who told them they were nothing and could never be as good as George. This is the chance for Jon, Roy and Mikey to finally prove that they do have talent which so many so-called fans doubt. But it never occurs to these people that if it's true that George is the only one with talent why hasn't his solo career ever come close to CC in terms of success? His biggest hits as a solo artist Everything I Own and the Crying Game are covers. Yes, George has talent but he needs other songwriters and producers to help him a lot with his music. He's not a Prince or George Michael who can write a song all by himself and then play every instrument. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because Madonna is the same way, but a lot of George's fans seem to think he does everything all by himself. He doesn't.
I think it's a good thing they did it quickly. Some of the best albums of all time have been written and recorded in a very short period of time. For example. Like A Prayer, Madonna's best album IMO, a lot of the songs were written in a few hours. If you are inspired you can do something great quickly. Whereas some of the worst albums in the history of music business like the infamous Chinese Democracy by Guns and Roses took forever.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:35 pm

Glinda you & I are never gonna agree on Culture Club.

They started off as a truly individual and unique group but turned into a bland out-of-time disaster (largely due to George's ego and drug abuse).

Why wasn't his solo career a massive success like CC? Easy - he didn't do the 'boy-next-door' who likes dolls routine. He rebelled. He got wasted. He released some average albums. He also got interesting. Without the band he took risks. Some worked and some didn't but they were interesting. The only George era I don't enjoy is DJ George. Never have. Saw him DJ once and it was of little or no interest to me. Wouldn't cross the road to see him DJ again. But I'd cross countries to watch him play live.

Jon, Roy & Mikey are nice guys and talented musicians but they just don't have the George factor. I know you won't like that statement and you won't agree with it but hey everyone is entitled to an opinion. Met all members of the band a number of times and all of them were decent enough souls. Hope the album is a gem and is a success but fear it won't live up to expectation the way 'This Is What I Do' did.
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Re: Boy George

Postby cs15 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:03 pm

First new Culture Club single 'More Than Silence' :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBfxxGjJCY

It's not very Culture Club(y) but it's not bad. Better than I thought it would be. Very solo Boy George than CC.
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