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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Stig Olsen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:02 am

Knowlesy wrote: As Stig so brilliantly summed up in his graphic there is no memorable tune and they have moved so far away from what made them unique.
Removing the R in 'Revolution' and adding a question mark which for some reason lacks on the original one, was most enjoyable - thanks, Stephen :D

The "problem" with DM is that you soooo want it to be good, and when really really really trying to find something awesome in a track – and realise you can't – the dissapointment sets in. For me it boils down to the rock-attitude which they so brilliantly succeded with on SOFAD, but now fucks up every time as they totally miss the point of harmonies and (for the lack of words) a multi-layered/structual approach to music - a thing Alan was a master at. Nowadays its just minimalistic and very dull. What happend to the high-pitched lead synth and the strings-section?

1. Ditch the Blues - we've heard it now!
2. Stop singing with that bloody sneering voice on EVERY track. There was a b-side (Ghost?), where he sang with his "normal" voice - ace track!
3. Add some harmonies, strings - just more layers/variation.
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:48 am

Knowlesy wrote:I once met a guy who had this great concept of the Rock and Roll Terminator. The Terminator would change musical history by stopping artists when they had reached their peak so you only remember them at their very best.


Did you tell him he was bonkers? Just using THL as the obvious example, pretty much everyone sees Dare as their zenith. So if they'd left it at that there'd be no Octopus; no Secrets; no Credo; no I Need Your Loving! Holy cow!
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Knowlesy » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:30 pm

JJ wrote:
Knowlesy wrote:I once met a guy who had this great concept of the Rock and Roll Terminator. The Terminator would change musical history by stopping artists when they had reached their peak so you only remember them at their very best.


Did you tell him he was bonkers? Just using THL as the obvious example, pretty much everyone sees Dare as their zenith. So if they'd left it at that there'd be no Octopus; no Secrets; no Credo; no I Need Your Loving! Holy cow!


Oh yes he was bonkers :lol: The lead singer in a Glam Rock covers band. Yes that's the fatal flaw in a nutshell. Perhaps a better concept would be eliminating bands/acts before they got signed so we never had to deal with their noise pollution. Imagine a world without Michael Bolton, Simply Red, SAW, Chris de Smug etc =D
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby cs15 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:39 pm

Whats wrong with Chris De Smug???


*oh yeah - everything*
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby SubHuman » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:56 am

I quite like Simple Red, not everything of course, but they/he did do some very good songs IMO.

Oh and SAW weren't a band/act just a production outfit who specialised into polishing awful into mediocre.
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:44 am

SubHuman wrote:Oh and SAW weren't a band/act just a production outfit


Incorrect. Look up Roadblock.
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby SubHuman » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:09 pm

Roadblock, completely passed this by at the time. Having listened to it on YouTube I'm not surprised, rather typical of their formulaic Hi-NRG output. Not my type of music, haven't we rather wondered off thread by the way. :lol:
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:37 am

There's a review of the new album that's been posted on the Palace forum. Doesn't read well!
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Panzermensch » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:22 am

There's a very valued poster on the dm forum I visit who's a journalist (in Finland) and has heard the album (once) and described it as DM's most depressing and non commercial album yet. That's not to say it's bad but maybe it will take time to sink ones teeth into!
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Panzermensch » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:06 am

WTR live on Jimmy Fallon yesterday;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtvIjrjF9Qs

I like!
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby cs15 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:19 pm

It really is an awful song. Good sentiment but awful tune. Genuinely can't listen to it the whole way through. If this is the tempo of the entire album (and the reviews so far seem to point that way) then I'll pass on it. No surprise that WTR disappeared without trace.
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Stig Olsen » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:53 pm

If you have low expectations for the new DM album, then fear not - your expectations were met.....
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby cs15 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:51 pm

I was talking to a guy who heard the whole album on Monday and his one word summary was: Boring.
He said that WTR is actually one of the better tracks on the album so my expectations are beyond extremely low.
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby cs15 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:26 pm

Have you seen the 80's mix of WTR?

https://vimeo.com/207019230
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Stig Olsen » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:50 pm

cs15 wrote:Have you seen the 80's mix of WTR?

https://vimeo.com/207019230


Yup - it's fab! :)
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby sarah t » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:54 pm

Just minutes ago I picked up my copy from the postman this morning of the deluxe edition of new album 'Spirit'

The album on disc one is just over 49 mins whilst the bonus disc with remixes weighs in at 27 mins so but my maths I reckon you could have fitted the entire content onto a single disc. This is just the same way they did it for the so-called 'special edition' of "Delta Machine".

Anyway I'll have a first listen to 'Spirit' later this afternoon... :/
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby SubHuman » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:40 am

Lets hope you won't be too disappointed Sarah, it's probably okay just not up to their usual standard. But then I like Exciter!
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:37 am

SubHuman wrote:it's probably okay just not up to their usual standard


Presumably you've heard it then...
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby sarah t » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:56 pm

I really love the feel of the pleasingly satisfying 'Spirit' and amongst the twelve tracks on offer standout songs on first listen are "Cover Me" which I think has a Trans-Europe-Express type travelling feel to it and there is definitely great emotive pace to "So Much Love".

IMO definitely money well spent... a fine addition to my music collection and great to have the guys back on top form once more!!! =D =D =D
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby SubHuman » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:10 pm

Well someone likes it Sarah, I'll have to buy it for Sandra, she's the big DM fan in our house. :)
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:53 am

SubHuman wrote:I'll have to buy it for Sandra, she's the big DM fan in our house.


Does she like stuff that you have already advised as being "okay just not up to their usual standard"? I can imagine the conversation:

Subhuman: "Here you are dear, a shiny copy of Depeche Mode's new album, Spirit. I hope you like it, although in my opinion it's only okay; not up to their usual standard."
Mrs. Subhuman: "Oh, that's a shame. When did you hear it to form that opinion, David?"
Subhuman: "Well it's funny you should ask that Sandra! As it happens, errrrm, well... I haven't actually heard it."
Mrs. Subhuman: "Opinions are like arseholes, David. Everybody has one."
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby JJ » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:22 am

My copy of Spirit arrived in the post yesterday. I haven't yet had a chance to listen to it, so as a result I am unable to offer any opinion as to whether it is only okay and not up to their usual standard. :p
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby SubHuman » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:49 am

I was just going by what others have already said here. Okay it's second hand information, I suppose eight out of ten cat owners can sometimes be wrong. =D
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby Panzermensch » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:36 pm

Been spinning the album for a fair while and I have to say I like it! A lot! It’s different but still very much DM. It strikes me as an album they’ve made to please no one but themselves and that’s how it should be. At times almost like an updated soundtrack to Twin Peaks. Big credit to James Ford for taking care of the sound. Much more ooomph to the beats and bass. Some of the more distinctive basslines reminds me of their early days (like Any Second Now) and could be handplayed by Fletch live like in the good ol’ days. There may not be another world conquering pop hit, but can we really expect that? For me there’s plenty of hooks, melodies and wellconstructed, catchy choruses to keep me satisfied. And I love the extended instrumental endings on a couple of the songs. New Order does this very well and I always hope DM follow that patch and thankfully they delivered a couple of corkers on this album. The tracks work very well as an album but after a while I’ve started to skip Worst Crime and Eternal. Stand out tracks for me is Going Backwards, WTR, Cover Me (fantastic Clean-esque ending), You Move (has a bit of My Joy vibe about it), Scum, Poorman and No More. Fail is a refreshing new(ish) sound for Gore, nice to hear him backed with a proper drumbeat for once. My sons aged 8 and 10 are running round singing Where’s The Revolution which is always a good indication of hit potential in a DM song :)
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Re: Depeche Mode

Postby cs15 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:32 pm

WTR was pants (but the remix was decent) and it's put me off buying Spirit. I'll take a listen on Spotify and judge wether to buy it or not. Has it charted well? They usual go Top 3 or so don't they with album releases?
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