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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:54 am

I don't really have much of an issue with Hodgson - his failings with England (and Liverpool as it happens) weren't really any different from most of the other England managers in the last 20-odd years. He showed at Fulham and WBA that he knows how to manage a smaller PL club. More the issue now is that he's been away from the PL for 5 years, and we don't have time for him to get back into the swing of it.

Fact is, the way Palace have gone about things since Allardyce left has been really poor. Clearly there must have been things going on behind the scenes for de Boer to have been sacked after 5 games, because not even Palace would normally do that, and no-one knows if it was Steve Parish's decision, or the American co-owners. But either way we've come out of it in a really poor light, and I would expect every non-Palace fan now to be hoping we sink without trace. On the one hand I couldn't give a flying f*ck if other clubs' fans don't like us, on the other I'm embarrassed by what appears to be the total mismanagement of the club from the heirarchy.

This is our 5th season in the richest league in the world, and we have absolutely nothing to show for it in terms of improving the club's infrastructure. We still have a decrepit old stadium with only 2 decent stands and zero progress towards improving it; our academy seems to have suffered hugely in recent years - Wilf Zaha was the last home-grown player to make it and he's in his twenties. In fact all we have to show for all that money is a thin on the ground squad of largely unlikeable players, with no affinity for the club, earning some grotesque numbers. It's really only Jason Puncheon and Wilf Zaha that have a genuine caring for the club, and yet Puncheon has been just about the worst player for us for the last 18 months - in fact scoring against ManUre in the 2016 FA Cup Final was the last decent thing he did.

It's been obvious to most Palace fans for the last two years that Hennessey is a goalkeeper who simply isn't good enough apart from when he puts a Wales shirt on, when he suddenly plays out of his skin. When his replacement Mandanda - on the face of it a very highly respected France international - came in last year from Marseilles and then got injured after 8 or 9 games and then never played for the club again, even then we went another transfer window without getting a new GK. Same for a striker - we have only one striker worthy of the name (and Benteke's doing his best to bugger that name up anyway).

We've barely dodged relegation in 3 of our 4 seasons in the Premier League, but this year it will catch up on us. As a Palace fan my glass is always half empty, but this year the writing is on the wall very early. I doubt any team has ever survived taking 0 points from the first 8 games. Quite frankly, I think for the way we've gone about things in the last 18 months, we don't deserve to escape.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Pauline » Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:42 pm

WE BEAT SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY!!!

*skips around the forum 1000 times**

4-2!
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:51 pm

Wednesday are a poor shadow of the club that used to play in the old first division.

I do hope that Palace pull off a miracle, but they won't unless they find someone who can score goals regularly.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:28 am

SubHuman wrote:I do hope that Palace pull off a miracle, but they won't unless they find someone who can score goals regularly.


Did you used to work for the Department For Stating The Bleeding Obvious?
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:58 am

Here's a nice comforting fact:

In season 1930-31, in the First Division, one club lost their first 12 (twelve!) games of the season. That club was none other than ManUre.

So next weekend when the f*ckwits on Match of the Day start banging on about Palace setting a new record for 7 defeats from 7 after we lose to ManUre , you'll know better. Because like I said before, football has been around soooo much longer than the feckin' Premier League.

There, I feel a bit better now. :)
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:23 pm

Palace also have a long way to go before beating Derby's record of 32 consequetive games without a win in the PL. This was in the 2007/2008 season when they were relegated. I couldn't find the record for the most consequetive games without scoring in the PL, but overall it's 11, jointly held by Coventry (2nd Div 1919-1920) and Hartlepool (league 2 1992-1993).
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Pauline » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:06 pm

We beat Wolves!! We're 2nd in the League!! In shock!! 'Mon The Blades :cool:
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:08 am

Great stuff Pauline - hope they keep it up for you, it's a brutal division to get out of!
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:43 am

I watched a couple of the Sunday PL matches this evening. The Everton v Burnley game was pretty boring but the Newcastle v Liverpool one was quite entertaining. Liverpool should really have won this if it hadn't been for some absolutely ludicrous misses in front of goal, Rafa must have been quite relieved to have drawn this match.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby sarah t » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:58 am

John

How good was that for Palace to beat the reigning champions Chelsea at the weekend? Congrats on the win! ;)
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:55 am

Thanks Sarah - Palace fully deserved it, and if we'd scored another 1 or even 2 it wouldn't have flattered us.

@Joe/snake: Just been watching the City demolition of Stoke. Mate, I have to say the team was as awesome as the crowd was crap. 3-0 up, 5 mins to half time and top of the Premier League, and you could hear a pin drop. There was just a ripple of polite applause when the ref blew the HT whistle! Maine Rd was always terrific for atmosphere, and Man City's a 'proper' club, but now there must be a huge quantity of plastics that go. They certainly don't deserve that team - I feel sorry for lifelong fans like you if that's how it is all the time (was certainly like that against Palace too). Full of tourists with their wanker half and half scarves.

@Luni and Murfy - they're showing a bit of Leagues 1 and 2 on TV here (BEin Sport). They showed the Barnet v Coventry full game last weekend. I watched it and thought of you both. We should have gone to some games together while I lived there.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:39 am

I shouldn't be surprised that Leicester City have sacked Craig Shakespeare given the way clubs now react to being in the relegation zone. It's consequence of the commercialisation of football and all that entails. It's all rather depressing though, I wonder who will get this poisoned chalice?
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:04 am

Apparently Pardew's one of the favourites for the Leicester job. If he gets it watch them climb the table, survive comfortably this season, then halfway through season 18/19 start to tumble after his 'bounce' effect wears off.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:48 pm

JJ wrote:Apparently Pardew's one of the favourites for the Leicester job. If he gets it watch them climb the table, survive comfortably this season, then halfway through season 18/19 start to tumble after his 'bounce' effect wears off.


They must be gluttons for punishment! Pardew must be one of the most controversial managers around.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby the snake » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:41 am

@ jj: Yeah thank's . City are playing the best football iv'e ever seen them play this season. I have high hope's for them i think they are about 2 player short of been a world class team.I kinda agree with you about the atmosphere at the Etihad but it's impossible to expect to get the Maine Rd atmosphere back like the Kippax used to be cos most of the fans are scattered allover the new stadium now. Still it's not that bad when your in the new ground. Maybe the fans are now so used to watching fantastic football every week that they expect nothing less and the expectations are so high it affects the atmosphere a little.
Delighted to see palace turn the corner against Chelsea hope they can keep it going now and become difficult to beat!
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:49 pm

Another one bites the dust! Are there any managers who started the season and whose teams are in the bottom seven of the PL who will last until Christmas? We could start a book on who will be next, if I was a betting man my money would be on Bilic.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby sarah t » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:34 am

I really thought we would have a boring lifeless draw against West Brom but my neighbour said there was a goal towards the end of the match. What a fantastic run from deep in his own half by sub Boufal to grab the points for us!!! =D

Now the offer of £10 tickets for certain upcoming home matches made to residents near to the stadium just might be worth checking out!
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:11 am

sarah t wrote:I really thought we would have a boring lifeless draw against West Brom but my neighbour said there was a goal towards the end of the match. What a fantastic run from deep in his own half by sub Boufal to grab the points for us!!! =D

Now the offer of £10 tickets for certain upcoming home matches made to residents near to the stadium just might be worth checking out!


They'll get snapped up quickly, you pay more than that to see league 2 matches!
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:39 am

As previously mentioned they're showing quite a few EFL games down here this season. Today I watched Sheffield Utd beat Leeds 2-1 at Elland Rd in front of 34000 to go top of the Championship.

The young lad that came off the bench to score the winner (Brooks?) looks a talent. It took me a while to work out who he reminded me of with his skillful but rather languid style; he moves a bit like Chris Waddle I think. Were you there Pauline?

Away games are just the best for atmosphere as it's usualy the die-hards rather than the tourists.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Pauline » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:05 pm

Nope, I'm in Scotland. Andrew watched the game at the local pub with my Dad! Very very happy right now, and still top of the league after today's games!!

David Brooks is pretty amazing :-). Everyone has been worried from the start that he'll be poached by a premier league team. Now everyone is worrying about the high praise and attention that Chris Wilder is getting!!! He's a lifelong Blade, I can't imagine he'll be tempted away....
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Knowlesy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:37 am

Congratulations to Denmark on qualifying for the World Cup. Thoroughly deserved over both legs. It started so well for the Irish last night and we had chances to gain a 2 goal lead. But after the Danes went ahead and some of the Irish players were fighting among themselves it really was game over. Denmark didn't lose composure after the early goal and got better and better as the game progressed. My god some of the defensive mistakes were so terrible they make the current Liverpool defenders look as calm and competent as the Italian World Cup winners of 06. This is from a Liverpool supporter. The mood is very sombre in Dublin today. I'll be cheering on the Danes in Russia next year. Eriksen was outstanding, when it counted, last night.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Stig Olsen » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:19 am

Knowlesy wrote:Congratulations to Denmark on qualifying for the World Cup. Thoroughly deserved over both legs. It started so well for the Irish last night and we had chances to gain a 2 goal lead. But after the Danes went ahead and some of the Irish players were fighting among themselves it really was game over. Denmark didn't lose composure after the early goal and got better and better as the game progressed. My god some of the defensive mistakes were so terrible they make the current Liverpool defenders look as calm and competent as the Italian World Cup winners of 06. This is from a Liverpool supporter. The mood is very sombre in Dublin today. I'll be cheering on the Danes in Russia next year. Eriksen was outstanding, when it counted, last night.
Are you sure it's allowed to talk about anything else than Premier League here, Stephen? ;-)


I couldn't watch it from when Ireland scored the first goal, but the equalizer made it easier. Have to say I'm surprised, even if Ireland play some of the most defensive football I've seen. Atleast the Irish fans took it well and – they know the fight is on the pitch and not afterwards. They had a party in Copenhagen at the first match and saw footage of them celebrating with the Danes at bars after the Dublin match.
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Re: The Football thread

Postby SubHuman » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:43 am

There's no e in bars Stig. =D

Watched the England Brazil match, England defended well but didn't really trouble the Brazilian defence. They will have to do better than this at the World Cup tournament. :/
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Re: The Football thread

Postby Stig Olsen » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:26 pm

SubHuman wrote:There's no e in bars Stig. =D
thx - fixed! ;-)
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Re: The Football thread

Postby JJ » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:41 am

Stig Olsen wrote:Are you sure it's allowed to talk about anything else than Premier League here, Stephen? ;-)


Here's something not about the PL for our miserable Danish friend... :cool:

Next Tuesday evening is the final of the FFA Cup here in Aus. It's the equivalent of the FA Cup Final in England, albeit nothing like as important, and it's a tournament in its infancy. The A-League has only been going for about 12 years, and the FFA Cup was only started about 3 years ago.

Nevertheless, it's the second most important club trophy in Aus (after the A League), and my daughter Mia will be playing a mini match on the pitch at half time in front of what's likely to be a big crowd (especially as Sydney FC are playing and the Final is in Sydney). It'll be the second time she's done that at Allianz Stadium, and I think it's brilliant how they get the kids involved in these things!

The kids are also giving out the medals to the players after the final, which is amazing for the kids (probably a bit more underwhelming for the players!) The only bummer to that part is that the kids have to attend a dress rehearsal on Monday evening, and as Mia has her netball Final then she can't attend the rehearsal, and therefore she's not allowed to take part in the medals ceremony. :/
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